If climate change is the greatest threat facing mankind, what are the odds of the big environmental groups rethinking their longstanding opposition to nuclear power?
They appear to be slim. Here's what Environmental Defense says on its website:
Serious questions of safety, security, waste and proliferation surround the issue of nuclear power. Until these questions are resolved satisfactorily, Environmental Defense cannot support an expansion of nuclear generating capacity.
And this comes from the Natural Resources Defense Council website:
New nuclear power plants are unlikely to provide a significant fraction of future U.S. needs for low-carbon energy. NRDC favors more practical, economical and environmentally sustainable approaches to reducing both U.S. and global carbon emissions, focusing on the widest possible implementation of end-use energy-efficiency improvements, and on policies to accelerate commercialization of clean, flexible, renewable energy technologies.
Supporters of nuclear energy -- including those who strongly support climate regulation to curb emissions of global warming pollutants -- say that doesn't make sense.
"They (environmentalists) love to hate the biggest thing that can move the needle with respect to climate change," says David Crane, the chief executive of NRG Energy. NRG is a member, with NRDC and EDF, of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, an alliance of big companies and environmental groups that back a cap-and-trade program to regulate greenhouse gases.
Crane spoke last week during a lively discussion of nukes led by my colleague David Whitford at FORTUNE's Brainstorm Green conference about business and the environment. I wish we'd invited an EDF or NRDC representative onto the panel, but the focus was money, not safety, security or waste. David began the conversation by inviting everyone to "consider the evidence and think anew about something about which many of us had made up our minds."
Good idea. Many years ago, I covered protests against the Seabrook nuclear power plant in New Hampshire for a left-wing publication. My sympathies were with the protesters. Now I'm firmly undecided, and determined to learn more. Given the threat of climate change and the safety record of nuclear plants in the U.S. since Three Mile Island—especially compared the alternative of mining and burning coal—it seems like the right time to rethink nukes.
Here's what the directors of the national energy laboratories said last year in a report called A Sustainable Energy Future: The Essential Role of Nuclear Energy:
Today, nuclear energy provides 16 percent of the world's electricity and offers unique benefits. It is the only existing technology with capability for major expansion that can simultaneously provide stability for base-load electricity, security through reliable fuel supply, and environmental stewardship by avoiding emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants. Furthermore, it has proven reliability (greater than 90 percent capacity factor), exemplary safety, and operational economy through improved performance.
One of the signatories to the report was Steven Chu, now the energy secretary.
Here are some things I heard during the panel:
As thing stand now, we are unlikely to see the so-called nuclear renaissance that was talked about just a couple of years ago. The global economic slump is the reason why. Lenders are more risk-averse than ever, and few businesses need more capital and pose more risk than new nukes. Demand for electricity is slowing because of the recession. And natural gas prices are down, making it easier to meet new demand for electricity by building natural gas plants.
The U.S. government has set aside about $18 billion in loan guarantees for nuclear plants. That will underwrite perhaps three plants, our experts said. "I'm convinced that there will be three nuclear power plants built in the U.S. in the next 10 says," said Kevin Book, a partner at ClearView Energy Partners, a research and consulting firm.
Beyond that, it's anybody's guess. The utility industry wants to build more -- there are 24 applications for new nukes pending at the NRC, all of two to be located near to existing sites, where local support for nuclear energy is strong. No new plant has been approved since the 1980s. By contrast, there are 45 plants now under construction outside of the U.S., most in China, India and Korea, according to Book.
Like beauty, "clean" energy is in the eye of the beholder. Notice how the NRDC statement above says the group would prefer clean and renewable energy to nuclear. Well, Alan Hanson, an executive with Areva, the big French nuclear power company, says that the nuclear waste issue is closer to being solved than, say, the solar waste issue.
France, where more than 80% of the electricity comes from nuclear power, uses a safe and sophisticated system to recycle spent nuclear fuel, Hanson says. (You wouldn't expect him to say anything else, but still…) Nuclear waste can be stored on the sites of plants "for the next 500 years in we want," he said -- plenty to time to ease the transition to a renewable, low-carbon energy economy.
By contrast, he says, burning coal creates not on CO2 but mercury and other pollutants. And many solar photovoltaic panels are made of cadmium, among other things, for which there's no recycling plant. "I don't know of any part of the electricity generating world that treats its waste as well as the nuclear industry does," Hanson said.
The politics of nuclear are complicated. Chu, who's probably the smartest guy in the Obama cabinet, supports nuclear energy but Carol Browner, who's an experienced Washington power player (no pun intended) is said to be a strong opponent. Liberal Democrats on Capital Hill -- Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid -- also oppose nuclear power. Given a choice between nuclear and coal as a source of baseload power, they're likely to favor coal.
Crane said: "Right now the dominant wing of the Democratic Party knows they need to accommodate the coal wing of the Democratic Party in order to get energy and environmental policy passed." That leaves nuclear out of the deal-making.
President Obama hasn't said much about nuclear. It may well be that technology breakthroughs in solar, geothermal, wind or battery storage will mean that we don't need nuclear energy as a source of low-carbon power. But until those breakthroughs come along, shouldn't we keep the nuclear option open?
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Breeder Reactors
With energy prices on the rise it is clear that we cannot continue to let coal and oil provide the overwhelming majority of our energy needs. Oil, coal, gas, and even uranium are running out, becoming too expensive, or are unable to handle future energy needs. Commercial light-water-reactors (LWR) are inefficient and only use about 0.7 percent of the available uranium (they can only consume rare U-235). However, breeder reactors can consume nearly all forms of uranium (in particular U-238 which constitutes 99 percent of natural uranium). Breeder reactors can also use Thorium (which I believe was mentioned above). Simply put the breeder can extend our limited uranium reserves from just a few decades to tens of thousands of years. The supply of fissionable material is a non-issue.
Oh, Please-2
/Three Mile Island had NO FATALITIES./
Oh, yeah, TMI-2 was a great bargain. It cost about $700 million, operated barely three months, then took about 13 years (and a billion dollars) to clean up. That's the kind of effective, efficient energy production we're looking for.
Nuclear Power
I have a feeling Nuclear power will be around for a while. While I don't necessarily believe we should go BIG in the Nuclear department, i do think we need a few more plants. It will only alleviate stresses in the future oil market. Saying because natural gas and oil is cheaper now is not a good excuse. It may cost some money but you need to do it when were not in a oil crisis because then it is too late. The Oh, Please has it right, we have to look towards efficiency. Our homes are not built in a way that is advantageous enough. Why not use natural light with fiber optics running through your house. Better insulated homes, solar cells, or if you have never heard of it, check out the Stirling engine. These engines offer very high efficiencies. We need to change a lot of things. I think the future of energy will and should be diverse, we cannot be reliant on one source or expect to get our energy from one type of energy production ie oil or nuclear power or solar or geothermal or wind power. A mixing of them all is what we need. Im actually interning at a nuclear power plant this summer so perhaps my opinions may change...we will see.
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Oh, Please.
Nuclear power cannot solve our energy problems for several reasons, the most important of these being that if we went hog-wild building nuclear plants hither and thither we would very quickly run out of fissionable fuel! Stupid, stupid.
Centralized power generation and distribution is very vulnerable and inefficient anyway. The smart approach is
1.) Efficiency! We have barely begun to make our homes, transport, etc. as energy-efficient as they could be, which would then make it easier to
2.) Generate power on-site in appropriate ways. For example, if your house is built right, it needs no power input at all, not for heating space or water, not for lighting, and you would have extra power to sell back to the grid.
3.) We need energy to grow our food, too, so it's better to grow as much as possible as close by as possible using permaculture methods.
Big Nuke is as dumb as Big Coal, and for most of the same reasons.
Don't fall for the nuclear gamble
Nuclear proponents seem to forget the past, and have no idea about what the future needs. Remember, it takes several years, and billions of dollars to boost up the nuclear industry. And there's already been many disasters (still going on in some locations like Chernobyl), there is no place to put the waste, and there are other solutions. Many studies show that if renewables and energy efficiency get the incentives/subsidies they need, nuclear does not need to be a part of the answer. Nuclear is about as much of an answer as is storing carbon in the ground. Both are way too expensive, and are not permanent if even temporary solutions. Don't fall for it.
Three Mile Island
Let's not forget that unlike Chernobyl, Three Mile Island had NO FATALITIES. Environmentalist wanna-be's, and many who don't understand nuclear power love to harp on Three Mile Island without ever disclosing the facts that no one died as a result of it. If anything it was an eye-opener that lead to better practices and procedures for safety and for hiring new AO's. We should push nuclear power.
Good post
There's only one point of clarification I would offer in response to your last paragraph:
"President Obama hasn't said much about nuclear. It may well be that technology breakthroughs in solar, geothermal, wind or battery storage will mean that we don't need nuclear energy as a source of low-carbon power. But until those breakthroughs come along, shouldn't we keep the nuclear option open?"
It is not what President Obama has said about nuclear that is the problem, it is the direct action his administration has taken to give Harry Reid a political payback and gut what was supposed to be the country's long-term nuclear waste storage solution.
Let's NUKE US
There are more sustainable energy, like wind energy, sun energy, geothermal energy, etc.
Cleaner and it's for FREE!
Nuclear waste, blah blah
Nuclear waste, blah blah blah.
When will someone mention how much energy use and waste comes from uranium mining???
How many restricted areas are there in the US due to mining tailings?
I am not an environmentalist; actually an anti-tree hugger...just an engineer that has a magical ability to realize that both sides are completely full of crap. Nuclear. Coal. They are both BS.
There is plenty of natural energy - wind, water and solar.
to late for nuclear
Nuclear was a good idea to earn some fast cash back in the days. Because it was cost effective, had no emmisions and had little to no needs. Nuclear always had an appeal but i strongly suggest you MOVE ONE and keep your focus on modern technologies instead of just wasting your time with OLD ones. America you need to learn again from the people who ones made America great!!! At this very moment many briliant upcoming people are going to rethink and reshape your country with new technology worth investing in. I would suggest pushing these ideas forward instead of going backwards...
Easier said than done
It's easy to talk about the negatives of nuclear power, but the few alternatives that are available cannot nearly compete with the amount of energy produced by nuclear. Sure one can say hydro, solar, wind, etc., but they are expensive and don't produce nearly a fraction of what nuclear does. I worked an internship at a nuclear plant and was amazed at the safety and professional handling of the plant site.
Nuclear waste is a hot topic, but I do believe that technology and safety are more than sufficient to deal with this issue. Nuclear is definitely the way to go weather it be fission or one day fusion.
Proven innovations in nuclear technology
Since Chernobyl and Three Mile Island nuclear technology has come leaps and bounds. I suggest everybody who has their doubts in regards to nuclear energy to check out pebble bed reactors. This is just one of many innovations that has made nuclear energy much safer and efficient.
This isn't to say nuclear energy doesn't have its drawbacks. But it is of my opinion that the current cons outweigh the cons of a primarily nuclear based energy system within the United States. Ultimately it will come down to the voters -- So I suggest each and every one of us become better educated on the technology and push aside the stereotypes and irrational fears that have been instilled upon us due to tragedy.
the real solution to a warming climate
Alternative energies are a great idea, but a very small piece of the "solution". Nuclear is the way to go, what is radioactive waste today may become useable with future technologies. But, in order to slow the warming of the planet, or cool the planet (I'm not sure what the goal is) we need to lower the atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases. Windmills and Nuclear power plants will not actually LOWER the concentration. Nature has a solution for us though, photosynthesis. When atmospheric CO2 levels were higher than todays levels in the earth's past (because of massive volcanic outbursts), photosynthesis lowered them (over a long period of time). So we can squabble over nuclear energy all we want, unless we begin reforesting our planet (daunting task given our rate of expansion), nothing about our current trends in global climate will change. I'm an earth science major so I learned a thing or two about the planet and how it works. Although I'm no expert.
Thorium is the answer
the nuclear waste from Thorium is lower and the amount of uranium necessary to keep is fissionable is small. Not sure why others have not mentioned it.
Bob
Nuclear waste
If it's not too much trouble can you go over the possibilities for recycling nuclear waste?